The Kings of Chazy Lake and Associated Families Blogging Community

There are already 3 excellent histories of Chazy Lake: two were written by Kathleen King and others and one is the Bigelow Website.  All are great reads and carefully researched.

As we begin this project the idea is to develop a set of interlocking blogs so that each family can be followed in its own blog while another focuses on the land and the history of the community up to about 1950. I hope that all posters will avoid posting about living people other than themselves and will only post pictures from their own collections or that they have permission to post from whomever owns them. 

The idea is to link all the pages together through a network of interlocking hyperlinks so that anyone can make their way from one idea and another and then back again.  Posters are asked to set their hyperlinks to open in a new window so that our readers are less likely to get lost, and also to share administration with someone they trust so that it is easier to fix little problems that might arise.  Also I hope that all the associated blogs (if there are any) will choose to moderate comments so spammers don’t take over.

At this point I don’t know if a community will develop, but I hope that it will, there are a lot of us out here who are interested in the genealogies and history that come from this region. 

As Aunt Irene used to say “Let’s see what happens!”



  1. I really like Kathleen’s history of Chazy Lake. There are, however, a couple of minor inaccuracies. She doesn’t differentiate between the two Sullivan Kings. “Old” Sullivan King, a.k.a. Séraphim Roy, was the grandfather of “young” Sullivan King, brother of Fil, Exford, and Howard. There are two different pictures that purport to show the homestead of Xavier King. Only one of them is correct. I believe that the incorrect shot is of a house which was near the D & H railroad on the Badger Road on the way to Saranac. Xavier was a foreman for the Lyon Mountain forestry lands near Chazy Lake, and he may have lived their temporarily during one of the logging operations, but, no, that is not his homestead.

    Nevertheless, she did a good job, and many people continue to enjoy reading it. Maybe it is time for a revised edition. Actually, this blog accomplishes much of the same things.

    Kathleen suggests that Seine Bay got its name from the family name Seney. That can’t be correct because this was a good place to seine for fish. I’m sure that it wasn’t named after the Seine River that flows through Paris.

    Also, her presumptions concerning the origin of the name Chazy are incorrect. In reality, here was a French nobleman who owned property near where the town of Chazy still exists. The Great Chazy River enptied there. This stream, of course, was fed by Chazy Lake.


  2. There is a second history of Chazy Lake that I haven’t seen yet, but Aunt Joyce has and says it is excellent.

    The account of the name of Seine Bay that I give on the Chazy Lake, NY website was told to me by Grandpa and Uncle Sullivan. The had set up nets there in their youth carrying on a tradition from two earlier generations.

    There were two species of fish in Chazy Lake that my dad and his brothers sometimes talked about. By the time I came along, however, they all had died off from a disease. One was the “frost fish”, the other was the “shad”. The frost fish was actually a “round whitefish”. They were not very large, only about a half a pound or so. Dad said, however, that they were really very good eating. They rarely caught any by hook and line. Instead they caught them in gill nets. He mentioned covering the bottom of the boat with them one night. They were silvery like a herring with large scales. The shad had a fuller body but was also silvery and had scales. The frost fish were found only in the deeper lakes of the northern Adirondacks. Sometimes the others were called “Chateaugay shad”, but they weren’t like the river shad.
    Sometimes dad called us his frostfish. When he was a teenager, he and his friends had a baseball team, and that is what they called their team. At one time there was a diamond at Badger’s Hotel, and there was also one at Dan DuBrey’s farm. When I was really young I watched Dad play in a game at DuBrey’s.

    Sometimes dad would bring me along with him to watch the Lyon Mountain Miners play there or at Mineville. I remember watching Cliff Martin pitch and Bill Kowalowski play shortstop for the Miners. Some of us boys, probably Peter Garcia, the Martin boys, the DuBrey boys, and others tried to organize a team. I only recall one game that we played at DuBrey’s diamond. It was against the Ledger’s Corner team. They beat us by one, and thus ended my sports career.

  4. Now it seems that the frostfish and the shad might be one and the same. I’ll have to do some checking.

  5. Hi All. My Grandmother, “Della Lacroix, King, Gagne” was adopted by Sullivan & Mary when she was I believe 4 years old, around 1889. I have been told that Della’s mother was Helen (ellen) Hamlin, who was a daughter of Charles & MArgaret Gebo. She had a sister, Delvee who ended up who knows where. Della, married Eli Gagne, from Redford and she died 3/8/1960.

    In the post from Dick King above, Bill Kowalowski is mentioned. Bill married my Aunt, Anna Yasment of Lyon Mountain, and they moved to Silver Bay, Minn. Both have since passed. I remember Anna & Bill very well.

    I would appreciate any info that any would have about Della, her sister, and the Sullivan King family.

  6. Good to hear from you Joe. We’ll be posting a lot about the Sullivan King family and what is known o Della LaCroix, which isn’t that much right now. But she is very much a part of our research. I think that Della is in the family picture which appears on Old Sullivan’s page. My guess is that she is the young girl who is sitting on the rock wall to our left as we face the picture. This is just a guess. Don and I are working to date the picture. Richard took the picture that is here by photographing the original which was in a frame at the house in Chazy Lake which had belonged to Old Sullivan and which we knew as kids as Noel’s store.

    The picture will have to be dated approximately by using dress and hair styles and by making a guess about the age of the kids. My current guess is about 189x. 🙂 Time will give a better guess, but unless a dated copy shows up we’ll never know.

  7. look for info on old king farm in front of topnot mountain in chazy lake i just bought house and born

    • I’m sorry that I didn’t see this sooner. I was born in that house. It was built by my grandfather, Xavier F. King, who died in 1934. I grew up across the road. The original part of the house was made of logs and that was incorporated into the final version. My father was born there also. The design was copied partly after the Badger Hotel which later was destroyed by fire. More later, if you wish.

    • John.. wasn’t that purchased by a hunting club?..

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